To play real guy in the real world here I typically don't formulate any kind of a conclusion unless there's some evidence that this conclusion actually exists. I certainly wouldn't toss about disparaging claims (some might say slanderous) about individual's honesty or ability to perform their job based on what my "gut" told me about someone I'd never met and knew only as a vague figure over the internet.

I certainly wouldn't make an accusatory thread based on those "gut" feelings in a place of record either, but hey we all march to the beat of our own drums I suppose.

:edit: Go to your local police station and tell them your gut's telling you something fishy's going on with the local government. Make a really angry post on the internet about how they're part of the grand conspiracy when they explain to you that they can't help you because you've given them nothing to go on.

CCP Sreegs: He is in your thread, controlling your game, having weird mind-sex with your mother. Like a fat Lucifer, he dons the mighty Air-man costume of drunken fanfest presentations and proceeds to spew forth light and glory on all of thy posts.

Read Op. Read pages 1-4, laughed at how quickly thread was derailed to be about one group of players decided to post my views without reading any more hopla. If this idea/concept has already been placed in this thread please forgive me.

I believe that every major alliance should have a CCP "spy". This "spy" would be a CCP employee who would contact the CEO of the alliance and then be accepted as a bottom line member. The Alliance CEO would be subject to an NDA with breach of the NDA resulting in the Alliance being disbanded.

This would grant CCP:
Eyes and ears on what game play is really like.
The ability to see game bugs and exploits earlier than is currently possible.
Make live increasingly difficult for any alliance member who has ties with other CCP employees, (eg CSM members, CCP employees, etc etc) to influence the game purely for the benefit of their own alliance.

Reduce the alliance headcount to a maximum of say 1000.

It's called voice chat.

It used to be BOB and now it is goons, it is also their game. So you can't really do anything about it. That is the final answer TBH.



P.S.



Dear Mr Dev, you might be surprised by how much (some of us) actually know.
Passing secrets at RL BBQ's FTW.

Salnder is spoken.
Liable is written.

Sorry, couldn't resist.

Side note/request: is there someplace I can mine tinfoil in Eve? Would be a serious ISK maker.

I host and develop for my own tiny non-eve server on my free-time. As a developer, reading this thread concerns me, because playing developers is always a fine line.
I feel that having developers play is an essential part of the development experience. Some games separate that with a test server, but for eve that's not really viable.

When I play my own game, I go with 100% legitimacy and transparency (IE: I make the character the same way a player would, grind it up, and work it. For devs here I suppose they could set account "research time" for how long they've been working here, or keep prior accounts if they had one, maybe start with one BS or lower class ship with "normal" rigging), absolutely >NO< spawned items, and for my server, I implemented a tool to allow players to brown-nose my characters (which I am 100% clear and transparent are mine), if they so pleased. Players see what i'm doing and what i'm making items-wise on my real character, but it's not a huge problem overall, just makes things a little more challenging if I play (balances dev-knowledge a little, if anything), and re-assures people there is no "dev loot" to be had, and all of what my characters have is 'real'.

If i'm just testing something, I use a separate Non-active char (no guild(corp), can't interact with players in any way, just to make sure "X" quest works and whatnot.) Obviously I would never reboot the servers or kick players/etc for my 'real' account's benefit.

I feel if the Devs here are running 100% illegitimate characters with spawned items there may well be an issue worth looking into, and maybe setting some *ADDITIONAL* and public rules for. I find it >INCREDIBLY< unlikely that a game like this doesn't have logs for GM actions (IE: kicks, spawned items, created characters, etc), and it might be worthwhile to have those public (I have one and it has little commentary about what an item's for if I spawn it on a non level 0 immortal GM character- takes me an extra second or so), or at least to have the logs monitored by someone impartial.

Just my 2c.

Ah, you mean like **********?

Or should I say Kugu since even his name is still banned from the forums six years later.
Cause youre SO interested in those facts



What RISK?
Did they break that Icelandic law and fire him after it died down?

Ya, going from crying about your space pixel datacores to making unsubstantiated attacks on someone's professional conduct is pretty ******* unhinged behaviour. At this point you really need to unplug and evaluate your life.

Still think that unless we see massive unsubs nothing will change.
See what they do not what they say seems in full effect unless you can point to where we've only said something and theyve scrapped it, unlike ppl leaving and we get a apology from Hilmar and a radical change in direction and refocusing on FiS instead of WiS?

Im using the excuse CCP GAVE US

That "icelandic law" thing? Yeah I didnt pull that from my ass.



Youre missing the point... what risk?
And it WAS worth the risk before lol

The risk that they'd be dismissed for cause, not be able to get another job and be stuck in Iceland polishing walrus tusks until they die alone and forgotten.

And sure, it was worth the risk before when there was no actual chance of getting caught and no mechanism in place for being fired if you were caught. But now there are both.

Feels good man.

As soon as I hit post, I knew I would see this almost immediately. Of course I know. And of course I am not comparing apples and oranges. I am basing it on response times from my own experience when submitting similar claims on different characters.

Mr Epeen

The shocking part is that nobody actually knows who you are.

Earlier I named the wrong GM, that was an honest mistake of faulty memory on my part. I've removed the incorrect name from my original post and apologies unreservedly to the wrongly implicated GM.



That is one issue where IA could have being pro-active would have settled any reasonable players concerns.

All it would take would be to say something like

I guess the question that would be nice for someone to answer is:

Are there any CCP employees that play the game that are NOT involved or associated with GOONS and if so, are they in a High-Sec only corp? Would they publicly admit or endorse that player corporation? Is there anyone within CCP who is anti-goon?

I'd have to say that most likely the answer to this is a big NO. Otherwise, you would have heard about it by now. I've never heard of a single accusation that DEVS are involved with any other corps or alliances other than the BOB stories from years ago.

Certainly there are other large alliances that are enemies of GOONS that could make for some great gameplay for the devs if they chose to fight against them. But that wouldn't happen because of the "watch the world burn" mentality that the GOONS have and I'm sure if the shoe was on the other foot, that they would protest the GM/DEV's involvement against them, and would might even try to pull a "everyone in the alliance threat to quit" card to get their way.

So really that's the lingering question. Why do the DEVs choose to get involved with GOONs rather than GOON enemies? And if there are, where are they? Why are they hiding in the shadows in regards to that but not the other way around?

Would a CCP Dev ever help a large alliance fight GOONs toward their final days?

Anyways, food for thought I guess.

that's not evidence that's baseless speculation

no, but they dedicated out of county prisons (detainment camps) for enemies of the U.S. which happen to be mostly arab/islamic extremists. Not copy and paste but maybe, copy/paste,edit for modern day acceptance

Oh crap the Goons are disagreeing! Wait! Youre not allowed to have independant thoughts in the Hive!!